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hi guys what you're about to hear is a

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about 10 000 feet at an undisclosed

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forgive the profanity as i didn't think

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i didn't think i was recording and

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damn it

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come blast off in my time machine third

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blast off on another vip episode

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of hero paranormal podcast broadcasting

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from the base

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at la madre mountain just south of area

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my name is ryan the original outlaw of

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airwaves bringing you well

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a hairy scary be wary episode

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today great one for the weekend one that

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i have been

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trying to get for quite some time in

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fact i blew it

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earlier and ron is such a rock star such

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a good guy

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he allowed me to reschedule and

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either way about it he is the real deal

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ron moorhead yeah there is

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well something very special about this

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show for me

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one of my passions in the paranormal is

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of a hard to classify bipedal

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hominid that should be in

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our fossil record is in our fossil

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has been in our history our earth's

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and very much is like a missing link

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they've been in the past it seems like

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should be here now to me question is

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will they be here in the future

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either way about it there is a real

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sasquatch yeti wild man

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neither are those who have evidence of

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their existence

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well our guest today if you don't know

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yet

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is the one the only author

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adventurist ron moorhead producer of the

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sierra sounds

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he's been known for decades worldwide

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sasquatch phenomenon

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to date he comes closer than any other

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researcher to having a complete body of

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evidence

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audio sierra sounds are the only

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bigfoot recordings that have been

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scientifically studied

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time tested and accredited as genuine

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ron has documented his personal

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interactions with these giant

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beings and produced his story on a cd

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and also in a book

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voices in the wilderness now

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this is not ron's only contribution far

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uh if you've heard of the quantum

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bigfoot by ron moorhead

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he shows how quantum physics relate to

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spirituality and bigfoot

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and there's tons of other stuff that's

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covered in the book now

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thebigfootstore.com is where you can

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ron's information products

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and they're awesome everything from

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coffee mugs

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to the quantum bigfoot books voices

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ron is the man now uh

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interestingly ron has traveled the world

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doing research

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on the unexplained undiscovered

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and underexplored he is recognized

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sasquatch audio recordings known as the

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this is the website where you can learn

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about ron's travels products he offers

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his continued research into the enigmas

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ron moorhead is an adventurist a

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someone who loves life

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he's often living it on the edge and

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this description by ron's daughter

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as a scuba diver he swam with hammerhead

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ocean riding the backs of giant

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manta rays and has been a safety diver

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right whales in patagonia as a private

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besides traveling to the ancient mayan

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what he saw was well thought to be one

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of the last remaining strongholds of the

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sukla fonta wildlife reserve to help

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he has made two trips into south america

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over the years ron has been interviewed

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by several radio programs and has been

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everybody including bbc and other

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museum in moscow

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and for years he has given presentations

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at symposiums and conferences

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about his bigfoot sasquatch experiences

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openly shared his knowledge and accounts

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his book voices in the wilderness

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chronicles his 40 years

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of researching the enigma besides his

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he has produced two cds with actual

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bigfoot vocalizations focusing

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on the interaction and he

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and others have had with these forest

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and a father of four his entrepreneurism

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and it's taken him worldwide unlike most

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of our culture ron

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not attempted to conquer it his story

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that has drawn much attention over the

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last 40 years it's a true story

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and he says that it's been the biggest

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adventure of his lifetime

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and as an independent and free spirit

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has had and is still having a remarkable

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life i can't wait to talk to ron his

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recordings made such an impression on me

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i i i guess i have caught a few of my

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but let's get real even a broken clock

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is right twice a day so let's listen to

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the expert

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and see how he does it how this is done

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it was uh just a fluke that i i captured

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and it's a lot harder than one might

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believe they're out there guys

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so um let's listen to the pros figure

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out how they do it

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ron is a pro and he's gonna hopefully

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give us some insight into

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what this enigma is all about check out

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heroparanormal.com if you haven't

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and that's just because that's where you

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can access all of the other archives

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to other podcasts also uh for the cost

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of a barista cup of

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coffee you can uh get them all or for a

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couple bucks you get most of them

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yeah just go to heroparanormal.com

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uh without further ado let's give ron

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moorhead a call can't wait to talk to

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mr ron moorhead welcome to the hero

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paranormal podcast my man

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thank you ryan it's an honor to be with

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you i i feel so special to have you

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that i have been listening to for a long

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not to date myself but you've been at

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how did you start going down this path

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who is ron moorhead

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and well where do you see this going

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to start what's going on a hundred and a

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half years ago it started in 1971

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encounters which is

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unheard of at the time that we didn't

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know what we do it's a remote hunting

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of california and about eight miles into

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8400 feet elevation so it's not

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but it uh definitely weighs up there as

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much as possible after these

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creatures started coming around our camp

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i was brought to a lot with some other

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guys as much as we could there was six

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of us all together well five ended up

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uh a lot of guys wouldn't go back and

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scare them off

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but anyway um that's that's who i am

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pretty good hobby out of this for years

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and that's kind of looking for other

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novels that might match what

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at that time and uh it was exciting

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these things also and he uh fostered

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and dr curlin who uh

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who did not laugh at him

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that's what i should say because that's

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what most uh

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academic does when you bring up

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something like bigfoot to the table

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and uh but he was something that's going

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on even though he wish he could have

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found a hoax he made a better story he

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thought but

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this this is kind of stuck with us and

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so we had that credibility he studied

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the sound dr crown for a year and time

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they were not manipulated not speeded up

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not slowed down

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uh they were genuine they were real and

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he showed how they went inside and

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outside the average human range

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and it wasn't until 2008 though

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scott nelson crypto english i retired

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from the navy as a crypto linguist

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with a two-time graduate of crypto

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linguistics school of languages

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in monterey california

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made a career out of studying unknown

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languages or if they were a language and

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trying to find deceptive measures in any

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language i hear her by accident on the

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bfro.org

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site one time and he came all the way

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out to missouri where he was teaching

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foreign languages after after he retired

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in the navy and he he uh questioned us

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i got the context of sounds and asked he

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heard him

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on the bfro and he had the interview so

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he took all the way out of missouri just

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to talk to

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me and the other guy then and i went

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back and said him also and he

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transcribed the

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complex language within these sounds and

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uh that's

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that's a big deal because this guy is uh

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super qualified to do something like

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that i got a

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pretty good letter back from that

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chinese school that he

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graduated from they said he's more than

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qualified to do something like this

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and that's what i did in the military

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and uh

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so there i kind of put the foundation

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down

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uh he studied them and said they have a

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complex language

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and that puts it in a whole other

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category i mean we knew they were

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chattering amongst themselves like

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albert osmond said

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this event of 1924 was during his report

347
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to john green uh

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but you know until you get a

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professional or somebody with a

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degree somewhere to really tell say all

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this

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well if no one's going to believe you

353
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otherwise it's just us up there telling

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a story like i'm telling right now

355
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except

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this really did happen we've got the

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science behind it now to establish the

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sounds to be incredible

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and then when you hear them uh people

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out there haven't heard them

361
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uh they're on my website and alongside

362
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something with two of our

363
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but anyway uh that's where we go and

364
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i've been doing this now traveling uh

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the global clubs into nepal

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and into south america a couple times on

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expeditions

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just to study the elongated skulls and

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uh

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coming into siberia i'm in the

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wilderness there with a

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group of guys and uh anyway um

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looking for commonality i guess you'd

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call it uh

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with what we encountered in the sierras

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which had some really strange things

377
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going on with it wasn't just the sounds

378
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that were recorded in the interaction

379
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that we was having but it was the uh

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the anomalies that went with it which

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was unexplainable at the time we just

382
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kind of

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shrugged your shoulders and put up on

384
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the shelf but but

385
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you can't explain some of this stuff

386
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with classical science

387
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and uh it just doesn't make sense

388
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so um it's not just lights it was

389
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strange sounds that you could monitor

390
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that by the source it was

391
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just interesting stuff and uh

392
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so i had to get into the science that

393
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might

394
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when i first contacted a scientist uh or

395
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along the scientists i contacted but

396
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when i told him about uh something that

397
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happened to me and uh

398
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the other guy one of the other guys who

399
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was up there at the time we walked up

400
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from our shelter where we heard one of

401
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these things are knocking off i called

402
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because they were just making their

403
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sounds

404
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and i thought sure we'd see one run away

405
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because it was still probably proved by

406
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moonlight night but it didn't run away

407
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and we got started getting closer and

408
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closer and all of a sudden we both got

409
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pros in our tracks like a horse feel i

410
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described in my book

411
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and uh it just uh what do you do with

412
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that uh it could not move forward and i

413
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it wasn't

414
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fear the scientist i told this to he

415
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said i want to hear about your fear

416
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i said we weren't afraid by then we

417
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realized these things didn't want to eat

418
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us but they would have already eaten us

419
00:16:03,189 --> 00:16:01,440
uh so what is it all about we just

420
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wanted to see one because they're really

421
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illusive

422
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very lucy very fast and uh

423
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two three years later until i did see

424
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one and uh

425
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that's how rare it is to see one move

426
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around but i think we gained a little

427
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:17,199
bit of trust with these things because

428
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we didn't shoot at them

429
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and we weren't hunting them and we

430
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didn't have any thought of shooting at

431
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one unless we were attacked

432
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and i think they might have known that

433
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but it was kind of a relationship back

434
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and forth there

435
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now from about 71 to 76 and

436
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uh so he's able to capture some pretty

437
00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:34,800
good

438
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recordings and uh again they've been

439
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studied

440
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so there i am and i'm talking too much

441
00:16:47,350 --> 00:16:46,790
ryan yeah not talking too much at all

442
00:16:49,509 --> 00:16:47,360
and

443
00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:49,519
there's no way about that uh it there's

444
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:51,040
a very real

445
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,399
quantum aspect it seems ron about the

446
00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:56,560
big hairy man of the mountain sasquatch

447
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yeti wild man

448
00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,639
urine yowie abominable snowman whatever

449
00:17:04,230 --> 00:17:02,079
you want to call it

450
00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:04,240
all myth i don't think so and i'm not

451
00:17:07,829 --> 00:17:05,199
sure

452
00:17:08,309 --> 00:17:07,839
that people who have gathered evidence

453
00:17:10,390 --> 00:17:08,319
um

454
00:17:11,829 --> 00:17:10,400
of their existence such of your such as

455
00:17:15,029 --> 00:17:11,839
yourself

456
00:17:18,549 --> 00:17:15,039
uh are are prone to

457
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:18,559
listen to you know naysayers because i'm

458
00:17:21,829 --> 00:17:19,760
i'm a full believer

459
00:17:23,590 --> 00:17:21,839
as i said i've been wanting to talk to

460
00:17:27,510 --> 00:17:23,600
you since i was a kid

461
00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:27,520
and i hope i'm not it's weird that

462
00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:29,360
these recordings you've gathered are not

463
00:17:33,029 --> 00:17:30,799
only jaw dropping

464
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,039
but actual scientific record at this

465
00:17:37,110 --> 00:17:35,280
point in many people's opinions

466
00:17:38,789 --> 00:17:37,120
how did you find yourself going down

467
00:17:40,390 --> 00:17:38,799
this path and

468
00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,400
the provocative and intriguing

469
00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:42,320
recordings how in the world ron

470
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:44,000
of you caught such provocative and

471
00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:45,440
intriguing recordings there must be a

472
00:17:48,470 --> 00:17:46,640
methodology

473
00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:48,480
don't give us all your secrets but give

474
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us a little bit of the

475
00:17:53,909 --> 00:17:51,440
intrigue you know the provocative

476
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:53,919
intrigue if there must be a relationship

477
00:17:56,230 --> 00:17:54,480
yeah

478
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i'm not sure anything you can buy wants

479
00:18:03,110 --> 00:17:58,480
to know i don't have secret choice so

480
00:18:06,070 --> 00:18:04,310
different people have different

481
00:18:08,230 --> 00:18:06,080
encounters at the time we were having

482
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:08,240
these we didn't realize the significance

483
00:18:10,390 --> 00:18:08,720
of them

484
00:18:12,710 --> 00:18:10,400
like alan berry did the reporter that

485
00:18:15,830 --> 00:18:12,720
went in he was investigating

486
00:18:17,270 --> 00:18:15,840
and uh anyway uh just uh again we

487
00:18:17,590 --> 00:18:17,280
weren't looking for bigfoot none of us

488
00:18:19,029 --> 00:18:17,600
were

489
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was up there hunting there's a hunting

490
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camp and uh so we just

491
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i won't say left out i guess or don't

492
00:18:28,310 --> 00:18:26,080
call it lucky i don't know what you want

493
00:18:30,870 --> 00:18:28,320
to call it but somehow these things

494
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uh started interacting basically more

495
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:33,440
with me i guess in 1974 that i got some

496
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of these things recorded

497
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when i was uh the only back out when

498
00:18:41,029 --> 00:18:38,480
they were saying something to me i have

499
00:18:43,029 --> 00:18:41,039
no idea what it was they were saying but

500
00:18:44,390 --> 00:18:43,039
uh the crypto linguist can't tell you

501
00:18:45,909 --> 00:18:44,400
what the words mean

502
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but he can tell you that it was a

503
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language by the human definition of

504
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language which means

505
00:18:54,390 --> 00:18:52,480
only humans have a vocal mechanism for

506
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the type of language we have right now i

507
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can

508
00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:58,240
recognize into sapient uh speech

509
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,200
which requires morphine stream of words

510
00:19:05,590 --> 00:19:03,600
uh 10 to 12 words to make up a sentence

511
00:19:07,510 --> 00:19:05,600
a saving sentence and

512
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:07,520
only humans have that vocal mechanism

513
00:19:11,750 --> 00:19:09,120
according to dr lieberman at

514
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brown university and he made that

515
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statement so

516
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when this scientist told me uh what

517
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could have caused that uh

518
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:19,200
that's blocking that i mentioned earlier

519
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,640
the force field

520
00:19:23,990 --> 00:19:23,280
uh when i said it wasn't fear we didn't

521
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fear them so

522
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:26,080
much then uh we're just cautious they

523
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weren't fearful

524
00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:29,120
and uh he said well it has to either

525
00:19:32,870 --> 00:19:30,960
pheromones or infrasound

526
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,880
infrasound we've been used for a long

527
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time to

528
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:38,320
control crowds and people and whatever

529
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:40,320
so i think you know they know they're

530
00:19:44,789 --> 00:19:42,400
not us they're not human so

531
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,799
it must be infrasound so i kind of stuck

532
00:19:48,710 --> 00:19:47,039
with that for a long time until

533
00:19:50,470 --> 00:19:48,720
until i finally started doing more

534
00:19:52,789 --> 00:19:50,480
research and realized that

535
00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:52,799
only humans can have a vocal mechanism

536
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:54,240
for language

537
00:19:58,390 --> 00:19:57,280
and uh that kind of puts me in a my book

538
00:20:01,750 --> 00:19:58,400
anyway a

539
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:01,760
talk of a hybrid a primate hybrid

540
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:03,200
which has been given some kind of a

541
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:05,039
human cross

542
00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:07,840
with the dna and manipulation and that

543
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:09,520
gets me into more paranormal if you want

544
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:10,000
to go

545
00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:11,440
down the paranormal rabbit hole right

546
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:13,840
now it's going to take the blue pill or

547
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:14,320
the green

548
00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:18,000
[\h__\h] the core i love it

549
00:20:21,029 --> 00:20:20,400
and yeah i'm really glad that you

550
00:20:22,950 --> 00:20:21,039
brought

551
00:20:24,789 --> 00:20:22,960
and mentioned uh scott the crypto

552
00:20:25,350 --> 00:20:24,799
linguist because there seems to be a

553
00:20:28,710 --> 00:20:25,360
very

554
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:28,720
real sort of communication which is key

555
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,559
i think here in um with infrasound

556
00:20:37,110 --> 00:20:35,039
elongated skulls i'll go as paranormal

557
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:37,120
as you want to i am just so intrigued

558
00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:43,350
well i've never promoted the word

559
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:45,120
paranormal i think it's just something

560
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:46,640
we need to understand so

561
00:20:49,750 --> 00:20:48,240
trying to understand it is what alan

562
00:20:51,430 --> 00:20:49,760
berry who had a master's degree in

563
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:51,440
science says whatever you stay with the

564
00:20:55,190 --> 00:20:53,440
science on this thing because these

565
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:55,200
strange things up here can be answered

566
00:20:58,230 --> 00:20:56,640
and you said don't talk about that or

567
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:58,240
you won't be invited to talk anywhere

568
00:21:01,430 --> 00:20:58,880
because

569
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:01,440
my communities don't accept it and he

570
00:21:05,830 --> 00:21:03,360
was part of activities and he knows

571
00:21:06,390 --> 00:21:05,840
um what it takes to get their attention

572
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:06,400
well

573
00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:07,760
i just came out of the box and said you

574
00:21:09,750 --> 00:21:09,200
know there is a science that answers

575
00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:09,760
this there's

576
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:12,799
quantum mechanics and uh that's you know

577
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,159
people say

578
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,720
for years i heard people witness to me i

579
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,000
saw one disappear

580
00:21:21,510 --> 00:21:20,559
not probably about a dozen of those and

581
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:21,520
uh

582
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:23,120
you can't just keep ignoring all

583
00:21:26,710 --> 00:21:25,360
ignoring all these people that say these

584
00:21:30,549 --> 00:21:26,720
things and

585
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:30,559
uh you know the lion or they're confused

586
00:21:38,310 --> 00:21:34,559
or they're talented and uh until i saw

587
00:21:41,430 --> 00:21:38,320
you see but my very personal friend

588
00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,440
saw one cloaking and uh i've heard other

589
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:43,120
people say that so first thing we know i

590
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,559
think well what clients could answer

591
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:45,840
that and

592
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,000
according tesla everything is energy

593
00:21:52,390 --> 00:21:49,679
vibration frequency

594
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:52,400
so good on that it's not really a rabbit

595
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,039
hole it's a

596
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,960
it's a established science what the

597
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:56,480
mechanics is

598
00:22:00,230 --> 00:21:59,200
and to get into what we are as a as a

599
00:22:02,470 --> 00:22:00,240
people

600
00:22:04,310 --> 00:22:02,480
as humans we are at the most minute

601
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:04,320
level we are energy

602
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:07,120
which is vibrating in the frequencies

603
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:07,840
and

604
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,600
if you can find frequency of anything

605
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:11,360
all matter is basically

606
00:22:14,789 --> 00:22:14,240
energy so it doesn't ever die it just

607
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,799
changes

608
00:22:19,029 --> 00:22:17,520
form and that's according to the hawkins

609
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,039
for nine cents we're not all

610
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:21,679
physicists energy cannot die just change

611
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:22,400
forms

612
00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:24,400
so you get into the spirituality part of

613
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,559
it where religions say well we die we go

614
00:22:30,070 --> 00:22:27,840
to heaven

615
00:22:32,470 --> 00:22:30,080
well quantum physics says uh when you

616
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,480
die you don't die you just change forms

617
00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:34,320
so you kind of got a parallel going on

618
00:22:39,510 --> 00:22:36,880
there just different terminologies

619
00:22:40,789 --> 00:22:39,520
and uh i kind of in my book mclaughlin

620
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:40,799
bigfoot i i put

621
00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,720
science and spirituality back together

622
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:44,080
because i'm sure

623
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,720
from what i've read einstein and tesla

624
00:22:50,549 --> 00:22:48,159
when i was born these

625
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:50,559
physicists from 100 years ago were onto

626
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:51,520
that right there

627
00:22:56,070 --> 00:22:54,159
and however classical science which is

628
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:56,080
based in newtonian physics saying that

629
00:22:59,350 --> 00:22:57,679
everything is material or physical

630
00:23:02,230 --> 00:22:59,360
measurable predictable

631
00:23:03,110 --> 00:23:02,240
that is just uh not true everything is

632
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,120
not

633
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:06,240
i i challenged a couple guys i said you

634
00:23:09,830 --> 00:23:07,520
if everything's measurable and

635
00:23:11,909 --> 00:23:09,840
predictable like newtonian physics says

636
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:11,919
it has to be then

637
00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:13,200
somehow hardest at the end of the

638
00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:15,520
universe haha

639
00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:17,520
i kind of stopped everybody i probably

640
00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,039
got me kicked out of club i'm

641
00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:22,559
sure but uh anyway uh there's there's

642
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:25,520
things that are are not answerable to

643
00:23:28,549 --> 00:23:27,039
classical science

644
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,559
not that we don't have it we live in the

645
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:30,400
three-dimensional environment our world

646
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:31,679
is the three-dimensional world

647
00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:34,400
with linear time and and we have to

648
00:23:37,909 --> 00:23:36,000
experience day after day

649
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:37,919
and like that's what life i think is all

650
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,240
about is experiences and how you respond

651
00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:42,880
to it so very important

652
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:45,360
but the class are awesome science uh

653
00:23:48,789 --> 00:23:46,400
says no

654
00:23:50,710 --> 00:23:48,799
there's other things going on if people

655
00:23:51,750 --> 00:23:50,720
just researched this they would realize

656
00:23:53,350 --> 00:23:51,760
that uh

657
00:23:54,870 --> 00:23:53,360
there's a whole lot more going on but

658
00:23:55,909 --> 00:23:54,880
what we see with our three-dimensional

659
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:55,919
eyes

660
00:24:01,269 --> 00:23:58,960
uh we see and we see

661
00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:01,279
we see things with our eyes we think

662
00:24:04,230 --> 00:24:02,720
that's real

663
00:24:06,149 --> 00:24:04,240
well it's hard to say it's not real when

664
00:24:07,430 --> 00:24:06,159
you see it but

665
00:24:09,510 --> 00:24:07,440
really there's things out there that you

666
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:09,520
can't see this just as real in fact more

667
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,760
real

668
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:13,520
so did i answer your question i got

669
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:14,960
upset no

670
00:24:18,470 --> 00:24:16,960
you're actually right on subject with

671
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,480
the with the quantum

672
00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:21,520
aspect and quantum mechanics is an

673
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,039
established

674
00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:25,120
science and we are matter and energy

675
00:24:29,750 --> 00:24:26,480
energy cannot die

676
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:29,760
i'm on board in fact it's interesting

677
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:31,760
because recently

678
00:24:35,590 --> 00:24:34,400
bigelow robert bigelow who owns bigelow

679
00:24:37,590 --> 00:24:35,600
aerospace

680
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:37,600
and formally involved with a lot of

681
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,679
projects involving the quote-unquote

682
00:24:44,230 --> 00:24:41,600
paranormal

683
00:24:44,950 --> 00:24:44,240
he has moved from space travel to

684
00:24:48,630 --> 00:24:44,960
consciousness

685
00:24:51,590 --> 00:24:48,640
and that brings up seemingly uh

686
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:51,600
interesting things as far as existence

687
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,080
you know

688
00:24:55,909 --> 00:24:55,039
why i think of the moody blues song what

689
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,919
is it why

690
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,600
it's something like trap the mind is the

691
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,400
best way to travel but

692
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:02,240
it brings about another interesting

693
00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:03,919
thing you mentioned cloaking

694
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:07,600
ron and robert guffey an author who

695
00:25:12,070 --> 00:25:08,559
wrote a book called

696
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:12,080
camellio notes possible

697
00:25:16,070 --> 00:25:14,159
probable military testing of

698
00:25:19,110 --> 00:25:16,080
invisibility cloaking

699
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:19,120
devices and things of that nature

700
00:25:24,950 --> 00:25:22,320
and i think that a possible other

701
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,960
aspect of that is you mentioned the

702
00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:26,480
these things can cloak

703
00:25:33,750 --> 00:25:30,320
or at least manipulate on some level

704
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:33,760
on a quantum basis right

705
00:25:37,029 --> 00:25:36,240
yes and this consciousness thing i've

706
00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,039
seen a

707
00:25:40,710 --> 00:25:39,120
documentary the other night uh it's

708
00:25:42,870 --> 00:25:40,720
talked about consciousness

709
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:42,880
fascinating people who actually have you

710
00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:44,640
know died and then

711
00:25:48,070 --> 00:25:46,640
came back and brought him back exactly

712
00:25:51,029 --> 00:25:48,080
this one person was dead for

713
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:51,039
uh close to 15 minutes they didn't have

714
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:53,840
any brain damage when they came back but

715
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,240
she was flatlined and

716
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,400
when she came back she was able to tell

717
00:26:04,310 --> 00:26:01,760
them things

718
00:26:04,870 --> 00:26:04,320
run on the operating table which which

719
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:04,880
went

720
00:26:08,630 --> 00:26:07,200
which happened when she was flatlined so

721
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:08,640
her consciousness

722
00:26:15,909 --> 00:26:12,320
was still going on even though she uh

723
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:15,919
was clinically dead so that was kind of

724
00:26:19,430 --> 00:26:16,960
interesting i thought

725
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:19,440
uh and i i i say interesting because

726
00:26:22,549 --> 00:26:21,200
they finally get into this you say like

727
00:26:24,789 --> 00:26:22,559
gigolo is doing it too well

728
00:26:26,870 --> 00:26:24,799
more people are you realize that

729
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:26,880
telepathy that uh

730
00:26:29,909 --> 00:26:29,440
clairvoyance all these aspects that some

731
00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:29,919
people

732
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:32,080
say they have and i think we all have

733
00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:33,279
that we just haven't

734
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:36,000
moved it within us we all have the

735
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:37,760
ability as humans

736
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:41,520
made an image of some masterful

737
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,559
creator uh we have been given dominant

738
00:26:47,669 --> 00:26:46,880
uh dominance on this non-dominance with

739
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,679
dominion

740
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:50,799
on this earth and uh i do believe in

741
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,799
ufos i think everybody does now since

742
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:54,480
military finally said we're doing it

743
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:00,630
so is there an alien component to these

744
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:02,720
beings we call bigfoot sasquatch

745
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:06,240
well there could be and i suggest that

746
00:27:10,549 --> 00:27:09,440
uh because of the different uh aspects

747
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:10,559
or different

748
00:27:15,750 --> 00:27:14,000
attributes that the minions seem to show

749
00:27:17,430 --> 00:27:15,760
and i've been in like i say south

750
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,440
america a couple different times on

751
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:19,679
explorations down there and

752
00:27:26,310 --> 00:27:22,799
the ecological structures and the uh

753
00:27:29,510 --> 00:27:26,320
alien bones that i've seen and the

754
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:29,520
things i've been into just you can't

755
00:27:33,350 --> 00:27:31,200
deny that something with advanced

756
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:33,360
intelligence has been here

757
00:27:36,630 --> 00:27:36,320
and uh anybody that does deny this has

758
00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,640
has

759
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:38,399
got to get their head out of the sand

760
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,679
because

761
00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:41,520
something has been here and many more

762
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:43,440
than just one sentence i think so you

763
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:44,320
gotta

764
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,159
understand why they want to be here and

765
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:48,000
what the goal is all that stuff so

766
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:49,520
there's a big picture to this thing

767
00:27:52,950 --> 00:27:51,200
right which i think

768
00:27:56,149 --> 00:27:52,960
people should be thinking about not just

769
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,159
bigfoot but what they might represent

770
00:27:59,990 --> 00:27:58,159
and uh there's an alien component to

771
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,000
them which i believe there probably

772
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:02,240
is i think there's more than one type of

773
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,279
them

774
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,039
and that kind of gets me out of the box

775
00:28:07,909 --> 00:28:06,880
too by the way i am out of the box i'm

776
00:28:12,549 --> 00:28:07,919
not

777
00:28:18,190 --> 00:28:12,559
paradigm or a certain uh

778
00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:18,200
disciplinary field uh other than uh

779
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:20,960
online restricted i just try to get into

780
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:22,640
any kind of knowledge i can about these

781
00:28:25,510 --> 00:28:23,600
things

782
00:28:26,710 --> 00:28:25,520
but if you stay for stick with classical

783
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:26,720
science they said they're nothing but

784
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:27,919
question blood

785
00:28:31,350 --> 00:28:29,679
well they are fleshy but when they're in

786
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,360
arguments when they're here

787
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:33,760
and then what's more people are seeing

788
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,760
them now and i'm not trying to

789
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:37,520
prove it prove that they exist to

790
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:40,000
anybody i don't do that

791
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,080
i i just tell them what i've got the

792
00:28:46,149 --> 00:28:44,080
information of god in my

793
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:46,159
my five decades of exploring this

794
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,520
phenomena and

795
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,679
they can take or leave it i don't really

796
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:51,039
care anymore you know

797
00:28:55,029 --> 00:28:53,840
right i'm 78 years old now i still get

798
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:55,039
around and i

799
00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:57,120
i still do this stuff i'm just kind of

800
00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:58,559
talking to conferences i

801
00:29:02,549 --> 00:29:00,480
i love doing what we're doing right now

802
00:29:05,590 --> 00:29:02,559
because that's only way i can get my

803
00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:05,600
my message out there but uh there is a

804
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:06,480
uh

805
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:09,200
unusual aspect to these things based the

806
00:29:12,389 --> 00:29:10,960
ones we dealt with in sierras do you

807
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:12,399
have language i'm not sure all of them

808
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:13,679
will have language you may not have been

809
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:15,200
given that attribute

810
00:29:19,830 --> 00:29:18,399
by the creator through what it was we

811
00:29:23,269 --> 00:29:19,840
have been given

812
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:23,279
everything um we've been given this

813
00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:23,840
earth

814
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,919
to screw up like and uh

815
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:30,080
we are messing it up by the way and i

816
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:31,760
think that's why you're seeing more ufos

817
00:29:35,110 --> 00:29:33,360
more of those things being reported

818
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,120
all because they don't want that to

819
00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:37,039
happen this earth is the jewel of the

820
00:29:39,990 --> 00:29:38,960
solar system and it's got everything

821
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:40,000
that the other planets don't

822
00:29:43,909 --> 00:29:42,799
have it's got plenty of water a lot of

823
00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:43,919
species

824
00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:44,960
that's another thing they're doing i

825
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:46,640
think there's a hybridization program

826
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:47,520
going on with

827
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:50,880
aliens into different species they want

828
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:51,520
their

829
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:58,399
to acclimate to this environment i think

830
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,600
that's what they do

831
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,360
and i'm sure a lot of you have heard

832
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:03,039
about the skinwalker ranch the

833
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:06,080
phenomenon that goes on there uh we've

834
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:06,880
had

835
00:30:10,070 --> 00:30:08,640
similar phenomena up there with the

836
00:30:12,470 --> 00:30:10,080
sierra camp

837
00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:12,480
and i just uh have to believe that

838
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:14,399
quantum physics is the answer to it

839
00:30:17,909 --> 00:30:16,080
at times you'll hear a sound that you

840
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,919
cannot identify in a daytime you're

841
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:19,919
looking all around it sounds like a

842
00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:22,640
huge tuning fork right above your head

843
00:30:24,789 --> 00:30:23,120
and

844
00:30:27,269 --> 00:30:24,799
you're looking everywhere you don't see

845
00:30:28,230 --> 00:30:27,279
a big spaceship right i've got humming

846
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,240
around

847
00:30:31,350 --> 00:30:30,640
uh there's times when with time i talk

848
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:31,360
about my book

849
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:36,080
versus the wilderness that we

850
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,760
we ultimate train here

851
00:30:43,110 --> 00:30:41,760
there's always hearing at night this is

852
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,120
all what always happened by

853
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,159
the dark dust timer into darkness it's

854
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,399
always here in our camp being torn apart

855
00:30:52,950 --> 00:30:50,159
inside this shelter that we had which

856
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:52,960
was a group of deadpool trees they went

857
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:53,679
against

858
00:30:57,269 --> 00:30:55,840
five other trees which kind of got a

859
00:30:59,190 --> 00:30:57,279
hutchie thing

860
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:59,200
and a doorway was just two trees split

861
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,960
with a

862
00:31:05,909 --> 00:31:03,440
log in between it but we heard these uh

863
00:31:09,669 --> 00:31:05,919
these creatures whatever they were

864
00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:09,679
uh just ransacking our our supplies out

865
00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,320
there we had

866
00:31:14,870 --> 00:31:13,519
all barrels in on horses and mules and

867
00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:14,880
uh we had them all

868
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:17,200
cable to trees because of bears a lot of

869
00:31:22,230 --> 00:31:18,480
air up there

870
00:31:23,669 --> 00:31:22,240
and we thought well boy they're really

871
00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:23,679
stringing things out out there we're not

872
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:25,279
going to have nothing left we looked out

873
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:26,240
there later

874
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:28,080
that night left last night but

875
00:31:32,549 --> 00:31:29,360
absolutely nothing had

876
00:31:35,509 --> 00:31:32,559
moved had been changed how do you

877
00:31:37,110 --> 00:31:35,519
explain that you can't explain there's

878
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,120
times we heard this sound this clicking

879
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:39,760
sound coming up from our stove area into

880
00:31:43,990 --> 00:31:42,320
towards our shelters opening and also

881
00:31:51,389 --> 00:31:44,000
without it being open it was inside

882
00:31:58,789 --> 00:31:55,590
2016 i was up there with my partner

883
00:32:02,950 --> 00:31:58,799
and we saw this elongated light

884
00:32:05,509 --> 00:32:02,960
floating by our tent uh well

885
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,519
no you don't know what that's going to

886
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:07,440
do you don't watch for you know what's

887
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:09,440
happening we've studied it for watching

888
00:32:14,070 --> 00:32:12,159
for several minutes and not minutes but

889
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,080
probably 45 seconds

890
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:16,080
and uh it was just manipulating its way

891
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:17,279
right through the trees

892
00:32:23,029 --> 00:32:20,640
and uh until it got out of our sight

893
00:32:24,630 --> 00:32:23,039
and it didn't stop and harass us or

894
00:32:27,830 --> 00:32:24,640
didn't notice anything

895
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:27,840
just a bolt i call it i

896
00:32:31,990 --> 00:32:29,840
talk to people about it like it's a

897
00:32:33,269 --> 00:32:32,000
lightsaber from star wars

898
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,279
that's what it looks like and this is

899
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,440
film i think david pilates up there the

900
00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:37,679
missing 401 series guy who writes his

901
00:32:41,509 --> 00:32:38,559
books and

902
00:32:43,430 --> 00:32:41,519
was filming he wanted to film it he i've

903
00:32:44,870 --> 00:32:43,440
known him for years and years and he i

904
00:32:47,430 --> 00:32:44,880
trusted him so he's the first one that

905
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,440
took piano with his videographer to

906
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,919
to get a little data on the sierra camp

907
00:32:52,870 --> 00:32:50,880
and uh

908
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,880
he did about a 15-minute section in the

909
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:54,640
missing pole the hunted miss

910
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,830
and i got about a 15-minute section in

911
00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:01,679
there and he really did a good job as a

912
00:33:05,590 --> 00:33:03,600
videographer on

913
00:33:07,990 --> 00:33:05,600
replicating the light that we saw and it

914
00:33:09,430 --> 00:33:08,000
took him up in 2018 since two years

915
00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:09,440
after we saw it

916
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,720
but if you want to see what that looks

917
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:12,559
like they it just

918
00:33:15,830 --> 00:33:14,240
exactly glides up their knees so just

919
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:15,840
point the way with and

920
00:33:20,549 --> 00:33:18,960
after i did that he he implanted the

921
00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,559
lightsaber in there

922
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,039
and was able to do a really good

923
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:24,960
replication of it

924
00:33:27,990 --> 00:33:27,600
so anyway uh strange things happen up

925
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,000
there

926
00:33:31,190 --> 00:33:30,320
and nothing like sprite that surprises

927
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,200
me anymore

928
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:34,480
and uh about people's reports and all

929
00:33:36,830 --> 00:33:35,120
that

930
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:36,840
everybody seems to have their own

931
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:39,120
experience when they do encounter these

932
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,080
things

933
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:41,919
uh a lot of people who think there's

934
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:43,440
nothing more than just flesh and blood

935
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,240
well

936
00:33:47,669 --> 00:33:45,600
you've got to ask yourself if they're a

937
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:47,679
human eyebrow are we more than fleshy

938
00:33:49,990 --> 00:33:48,720
blood that's when you get into

939
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:50,000
consciousness and get it

940
00:34:00,470 --> 00:33:58,470
field yeah so

941
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,480
people research who they are as a human

942
00:34:03,669 --> 00:34:01,519
being and what

943
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,679
benefits we have on this earth you'll

944
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:05,120
understand a little bit more about these

945
00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,720
things could be because if they are a

946
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:08,960
human hybrid which i believe them to be

947
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,359
at least most of them i'm not sure some

948
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:13,520
of them may just be a rally comedy from

949
00:34:18,069 --> 00:34:16,879
caveman days but again what we were

950
00:34:20,869 --> 00:34:18,079
dealing with up there

951
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:20,879
has a complex language it's a very

952
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:21,679
elusive

953
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:24,560
very lucy and they're very very fast for

954
00:34:29,030 --> 00:34:26,240
their size

955
00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:29,040
and uh they they beat impressions on the

956
00:34:33,349 --> 00:34:30,240
ground

957
00:34:35,430 --> 00:34:33,359
so anyway i'm still talking a lot

958
00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:35,440
this gives me another question for

959
00:34:38,869 --> 00:34:36,800
around time

960
00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:38,879
that's the idea i love it that's why i

961
00:34:42,310 --> 00:34:40,000
have you on because

962
00:34:43,589 --> 00:34:42,320
you are at a different level than most

963
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:43,599
researchers and it does

964
00:34:49,829 --> 00:34:46,639
seem odd that anywhere

965
00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:49,839
there seems to be dimensional quantum

966
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:52,639
distortion uh such as the places you

967
00:34:56,069 --> 00:34:53,200
mentioned

968
00:34:57,109 --> 00:34:56,079
these amazing creatures appear and it

969
00:34:59,109 --> 00:34:57,119
does seem that

970
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:59,119
under the cover of darkness these

971
00:35:02,790 --> 00:35:00,960
magnificent entities

972
00:35:04,870 --> 00:35:02,800
to call them something are able to

973
00:35:05,829 --> 00:35:04,880
exponentially manipulate their

974
00:35:07,589 --> 00:35:05,839
environment

975
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,599
and travel through the wilderness with

976
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,359
ease what's odd

977
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:12,000
is they must not only be manipulating

978
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:13,680
their environment they must on some

979
00:35:16,550 --> 00:35:14,320
level

980
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:16,560
be manipulating our shared environment

981
00:35:19,190 --> 00:35:17,359
and

982
00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:19,200
lights are a big deal in the woods for

983
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:21,119
many years many of the

984
00:35:25,030 --> 00:35:23,359
quote-unquote bigfoot groups have

985
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,040
ignored the anomalous

986
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:27,359
light aspect in proximity to bigfoot

987
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:30,320
sightings why is that

988
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,240
well they uh they're not working for us

989
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:34,160
you find what you look for according to

990
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,680
abraham lincoln churchill

991
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:39,839
i believe you find what you look for if

992
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,440
they're not looking for

993
00:35:46,069 --> 00:35:43,599
anything outside of their paradigm

994
00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:46,079
they've arranged for themselves

995
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,320
uh they won't find it properly it was

996
00:35:52,710 --> 00:35:49,680
just by accident that

997
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,720
patterson got his film uh that

998
00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:55,680
we got these sounds i say accident uh it

999
00:35:58,310 --> 00:35:56,640
was just

1000
00:36:00,150 --> 00:35:58,320
part of what we were designed for i

1001
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,160
guess i'm not sure but

1002
00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:03,280
again it's all vibration and energy and

1003
00:36:05,589 --> 00:36:03,920
uh

1004
00:36:07,670 --> 00:36:05,599
if these things can broaden our

1005
00:36:10,150 --> 00:36:07,680
perception which i they do

1006
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:10,160
and uh how do they do that do they do

1007
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,359
are they inter-dimensional they're going

1008
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:12,720
to another dimension

1009
00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:14,560
they just uh really see within

1010
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:15,760
parameters of light

1011
00:36:20,550 --> 00:36:18,640
our parameters and we have visual

1012
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,560
parameters a camera can see more than

1013
00:36:25,829 --> 00:36:22,400
our eyes can see

1014
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,839
and it's just really interesting how

1015
00:36:28,870 --> 00:36:27,200
they might do that

1016
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,880
uh if they can change their vibrational

1017
00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:31,119
frequency to something

1018
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:33,200
i think it's hard to be lowered to get

1019
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:35,359
into our dimension that they can

1020
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:36,960
raise it with their vocal mechanism

1021
00:36:43,510 --> 00:36:39,280
which is extremely unique by the way

1022
00:36:46,550 --> 00:36:44,870
they can change their vibrational

1023
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:46,560
frequency to something that would

1024
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,480
go out of our perception so then it

1025
00:36:51,589 --> 00:36:50,160
takes them to another dimension or they

1026
00:36:54,630 --> 00:36:51,599
have an attribute that

1027
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:54,640
allows them to cloak in this dimension

1028
00:37:00,069 --> 00:36:58,000
um there's 11

1029
00:37:01,109 --> 00:37:00,079
dimensions according to quantum physics

1030
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,119
and uh

1031
00:37:05,510 --> 00:37:03,119
if they go into like the fifth dimension

1032
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:05,520
fourth dimension is considered time

1033
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:07,040
and that's where i think a lot of these

1034
00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:08,720
people see them uh

1035
00:37:11,990 --> 00:37:10,160
in appropriate form is when they're

1036
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:12,000
going through that fourth dimension into

1037
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:14,880
the fifth perhaps and i'm way out there

1038
00:37:18,310 --> 00:37:15,680
on all this

1039
00:37:19,430 --> 00:37:18,320
but it's my thoughts if they can if they

1040
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,440
could do that

1041
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:21,200
that's also where you might people

1042
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:22,720
witness ghosts is in that fourth

1043
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,680
dimension when they

1044
00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:25,920
they can see them or get some kind of

1045
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,400
effect on them but they can't

1046
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,000
these things are stuck in there they

1047
00:37:33,190 --> 00:37:31,520
can't quite get the vibrational

1048
00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:33,200
frequency high enough to get into

1049
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,720
a higher dimension which we're all

1050
00:37:38,790 --> 00:37:37,119
designed to be going to at some point in

1051
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:38,800
our life

1052
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,560
or in the actual life you will look at

1053
00:37:45,670 --> 00:37:44,800
so amazing so i'm going to answer that

1054
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:45,680
question

1055
00:37:50,950 --> 00:37:49,200
entanglement is what i was going to

1056
00:37:52,630 --> 00:37:50,960
mention too is that

1057
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,640
people say they can read their minds or

1058
00:37:57,589 --> 00:37:54,320
get into their

1059
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:57,599
thoughts or stuff like that they asked

1060
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:58,880
me if that happened to me well i don't

1061
00:38:02,230 --> 00:37:59,200
know

1062
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:02,240
i was very analytical i still am

1063
00:38:06,710 --> 00:38:04,320
and you have to kind of relax and get

1064
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,720
into pretty much closer to the

1065
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:08,720
human frequency resonance frequency

1066
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,839
which is uh

1067
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:11,520
what the earth gets down to at night

1068
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,760
time and what most people settle into

1069
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,680
when you go into your outfit to paint a

1070
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:17,520
stage of awareness

1071
00:38:20,710 --> 00:38:19,119
and i write about this in my quantum

1072
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,720
book because it kind of answers a lot of

1073
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,720
these questions

1074
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,720
that people have how they do that a lot

1075
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:26,160
of people don't even talk about it until

1076
00:38:28,790 --> 00:38:27,440
they realize you're open to it and then

1077
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:28,800
we'll tell you about it and that's what

1078
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:33,349
with the department entanglement is uh

1079
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:34,640
something we can all do

1080
00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:36,800
that's how telepathy works that's how we

1081
00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:37,680
just

1082
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:39,760
haven't learned how to access the pineal

1083
00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:42,160
gland which is in the middle of our head

1084
00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:45,200
and uh how to make it in coherence with

1085
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:46,640
your brain which is the front of your

1086
00:38:50,870 --> 00:38:47,280
head

1087
00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,880
for most people anyway

1088
00:38:54,390 --> 00:38:52,720
and how to make all that in that

1089
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:54,400
coherence with your heart your heart has

1090
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:55,760
more energy than any

1091
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:58,720
part of your body and uh you got to get

1092
00:39:02,950 --> 00:38:59,760
that heart

1093
00:39:04,470 --> 00:39:02,960
mind coherence going on to and have all

1094
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:04,480
that connected to the people

1095
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:06,480
which is the third eye on horus they're

1096
00:39:10,630 --> 00:39:07,839
going to be

1097
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:10,640
you see that depicted a lot nervous at

1098
00:39:19,109 --> 00:39:12,079
all

1099
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:19,119
but it can see and it knows i think

1100
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:21,119
that's where you can receive information

1101
00:39:25,829 --> 00:39:24,400
via meditation and that's where a lot of

1102
00:39:26,550 --> 00:39:25,839
things happen try in the middle of the

1103
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,560
head

1104
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,680
i got a whole chapter in my book too

1105
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:31,839
it's really uh interesting stuff you get

1106
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:34,880
into how things really are working man

1107
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:38,000
and just uh start reading about it so

1108
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:39,920
they found that with their cultural

1109
00:39:44,790 --> 00:39:42,160
entanglement and telepathy and all that

1110
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:44,800
and that again it's all about vibration

1111
00:39:48,230 --> 00:39:45,440
as far as

1112
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,240
it can disappear i think that's your

1113
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,160
vibration

1114
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,839
yeah that's how they move those big

1115
00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:53,280
megalithic structures

1116
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,839
that are witnessed on peru and bolivia

1117
00:39:59,430 --> 00:39:57,119
uh

1118
00:40:01,510 --> 00:39:59,440
there's things down there that just they

1119
00:40:02,630 --> 00:40:01,520
don't look to this day how it was done

1120
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,640
i think it's done through sound

1121
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:04,400
vibration you're going to write

1122
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:05,440
frequency you can

1123
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:08,000
manipulate anything and that's hard on

1124
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:09,040
the swallow

1125
00:40:13,670 --> 00:40:11,680
but that's how i think christ in the

1126
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,680
bible did his miracle how the masters do

1127
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:15,280
their miracles is through

1128
00:40:20,470 --> 00:40:18,560
frequency vibration alteration and

1129
00:40:22,790 --> 00:40:20,480
uh you find the frequency of anything

1130
00:40:25,990 --> 00:40:22,800
you've been manipulating

1131
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:26,000
yes i agree and

1132
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,760
i'm glad uh intrigued that you mentioned

1133
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:32,079
the the heart being such a powerful

1134
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,359
organ because it is

1135
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,680
uh vibrational and some of the more

1136
00:40:39,510 --> 00:40:37,680
recent scientific studies have shown

1137
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:39,520
that it's less of a pump and more

1138
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,200
like you're saying just a harmonious

1139
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:42,960
vibrational organ

1140
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,440
and uh when it comes to your research

1141
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:47,520
you say by accident that you came across

1142
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:49,599
it but it seems like a beautiful

1143
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,280
synchronicity to me ron

1144
00:40:55,829 --> 00:40:54,480
um there's so many cases of footprints

1145
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:55,839
ending in snow

1146
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:58,400
marshland and sand i can't think of

1147
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,520
anything better

1148
00:41:03,990 --> 00:41:02,079
than the quantum explanation to explain

1149
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:04,000
this is there

1150
00:41:07,030 --> 00:41:06,160
well that's it for me well it's got to

1151
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:07,040
be in the coffin

1152
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:10,880
uh coffin field of reality

1153
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:12,800
and uh that's just where i go with it

1154
00:41:16,069 --> 00:41:14,640
and that's i just keep

1155
00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:16,079
the more i look into that the more it

1156
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:17,760
makes so much sense

1157
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,720
uh just got to understand it a little

1158
00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:22,319
bit because so many people can't wrap

1159
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:23,760
their head around quantum physics so

1160
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:24,480
they just

1161
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,720
throw the book from the chat somewhere

1162
00:41:29,910 --> 00:41:28,319
uh but there's a lot of books on it

1163
00:41:31,670 --> 00:41:29,920
there's a lot of people saying

1164
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,680
now what i've been saying for years you

1165
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:33,040
know there's something going on these

1166
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,720
things that must be in the quantum realm

1167
00:41:37,589 --> 00:41:35,839
there's a lot of information on the

1168
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:37,599
quantum physics and quantum

1169
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,960
mechanics that people should uh research

1170
00:41:43,990 --> 00:41:42,640
before they call up being a hoax or

1171
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:44,000
something's not real

1172
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,359
but the other thing that bothers me a

1173
00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,359
little bit is when someone says oh this

1174
00:41:50,710 --> 00:41:49,280
was not real they backed their truck up

1175
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:50,720
to some place and had a

1176
00:41:54,470 --> 00:41:53,440
six pack open and recorded this one only

1177
00:41:56,710 --> 00:41:54,480
sounds

1178
00:41:58,309 --> 00:41:56,720
well it's not quite like that if you you

1179
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,319
see that four one one of the missing

1180
00:42:01,829 --> 00:42:00,480
hunters yeah missing four one the

1181
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:01,839
hunters have

1182
00:42:05,109 --> 00:42:03,280
you'll see just what an effort it takes

1183
00:42:07,349 --> 00:42:05,119
to get into that camp

1184
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,359
and uh how ludicrous it'd be for anyone

1185
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,520
to even try to do what was

1186
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:14,870
so these things are back there somewhere

1187
00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:16,480
and they're still around the sierra if

1188
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:18,079
you hear a lot of reports about these

1189
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:18,640
things

1190
00:42:21,990 --> 00:42:21,200
i live in washington now and a lot of

1191
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,000
reports here

1192
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,640
a lot of reports i'm kind of missing i

1193
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,400
can say during my talk that these

1194
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:28,640
are caucuses and things it's only one

1195
00:42:31,670 --> 00:42:30,160
been held this year i'm supposed to be

1196
00:42:34,309 --> 00:42:31,680
on with uh

1197
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:34,319
george nori later this year somewhere

1198
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:34,960
but that's

1199
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:36,560
the only one that's really scheduled

1200
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:38,560
that's a physical

1201
00:42:43,109 --> 00:42:41,520
express summer like this podcast which i

1202
00:42:46,150 --> 00:42:43,119
like

1203
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:46,160
yeah well cool it is

1204
00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:49,359
yeah it's so intriguing um you've surely

1205
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:52,480
come across uh brian forrester's work i

1206
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,599
i'd assume

1207
00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:56,400
but i think your work melds very well

1208
00:43:00,150 --> 00:42:57,599
with some of his work

1209
00:43:01,510 --> 00:43:00,160
and a question that i can't let you go

1210
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,520
without asking

1211
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,839
what kind of equipment are you using to

1212
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,000
gather such amazing sounds

1213
00:43:11,349 --> 00:43:09,040
and uh i'm sure you've heard the sam

1214
00:43:13,030 --> 00:43:11,359
well yeah everybody's heard so many of

1215
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:13,040
the i wanted to get into some of the

1216
00:43:16,630 --> 00:43:15,119
individual recordings but

1217
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,640
and the events but we don't have to do

1218
00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:19,200
that let's let's just because of time

1219
00:43:24,230 --> 00:43:21,040
what kind of equipment are you using

1220
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:24,240
because the sound quality is phenomenal

1221
00:43:28,069 --> 00:43:26,000
well it was just a cassette consent

1222
00:43:30,950 --> 00:43:28,079
recorder that's all we had in the 70s

1223
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:30,960
and uh that's what we used this

1224
00:43:35,109 --> 00:43:31,680
cassettes

1225
00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,119
uh i had a little uh well i had an rca

1226
00:43:39,030 --> 00:43:36,800
portable the best ones you could buy and

1227
00:43:39,589 --> 00:43:39,040
i recorded some really fantastic sound

1228
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:39,599
like

1229
00:43:43,270 --> 00:43:41,280
stereo bikes on each side of the shelter

1230
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:43,280
sticking through the walls

1231
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,640
and uh you could hear these things

1232
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:46,240
walking around trying to crunch out

1233
00:43:50,069 --> 00:43:46,640
there

1234
00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,079
and uh i had a house fire though and it

1235
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:52,400
burned everything up after that i went

1236
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:54,079
into a

1237
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:57,040
just a smaller cassette player because

1238
00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,440
one of

1239
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,599
these sounds only they're interesting

1240
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:01,119
but again you don't know what they're

1241
00:44:03,190 --> 00:44:02,560
saying so you don't know what to do with

1242
00:44:04,870 --> 00:44:03,200
it

1243
00:44:06,710 --> 00:44:04,880
uh we've got hours of these sounds

1244
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,720
between the five of them so we're up

1245
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:08,000
there recording

1246
00:44:12,870 --> 00:44:10,960
and so it's really just the sense that's

1247
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,880
all what i suggest to people though is

1248
00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,720
uh use brand new cassettes if you're

1249
00:44:19,109 --> 00:44:16,160
gonna go out of the woods don't

1250
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:19,119
take over them uh i'll very new dad so

1251
00:44:22,550 --> 00:44:20,160
those are the ones who

1252
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:22,560
have studied the university of wyoming

1253
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,520
um

1254
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:26,400
what we would do is we go back and just

1255
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:27,119
just

1256
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:28,400
save and not have to go to the store and

1257
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:30,160
buy and work it says we'd

1258
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,760
take over the once we had we went back

1259
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:33,680
up there again which is not

1260
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,960
what you're supposed to do but all my

1261
00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:39,280
tapes got burnt up in my house fire

1262
00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:42,640
along with my equipment and everything

1263
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:46,319
in 1970 something

1264
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:50,560
so i missed that because i absolutely

1265
00:44:55,589 --> 00:44:53,520
really phenomenal recordings uh like the

1266
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:55,599
ones that you hear on the first cd

1267
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:59,119
very clear those were i produced the

1268
00:45:03,270 --> 00:44:59,920
first cd

1269
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,280
that's on my website recordings and

1270
00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:05,040
it's all very story then basically

1271
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:07,200
reportedly it's narrated by

1272
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:09,760
jonathan freight star trek uh next

1273
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:10,800
generation

1274
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,800
which is so great and uh produced that

1275
00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,079
down in burbank uh

1276
00:45:19,589 --> 00:45:17,359
years ago and uh applying the

1277
00:45:21,589 --> 00:45:19,599
prior to his passing he you mentioned

1278
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:21,599
that i should uh

1279
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,680
i should write a book and i i ended up

1280
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,520
actually producing my second cd

1281
00:45:29,430 --> 00:45:27,920
also which with my personal interaction

1282
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,440
with these things

1283
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,599
uh the wood pounding the whooping sounds

1284
00:45:36,470 --> 00:45:33,359
the rock clocking the

1285
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:36,480
electro vocalizations uh they call it

1286
00:45:40,950 --> 00:45:37,680
the samurai chatter

1287
00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:40,960
online uh uh

1288
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:43,680
so that's where that was coined actually

1289
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,560
mad money maker from vehicle.org

1290
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,560
he uh coined that and just before he

1291
00:45:53,109 --> 00:45:50,240
started bfro

1292
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:53,119
as a sounds like a samurai it really

1293
00:45:57,910 --> 00:45:54,000
does

1294
00:45:58,710 --> 00:45:57,920
stuck with it so uh but it's a complex

1295
00:46:00,870 --> 00:45:58,720
language

1296
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,880
and again it takes a special mechanism

1297
00:46:05,349 --> 00:46:02,160
in your vocal

1298
00:46:07,030 --> 00:46:05,359
range to to do this stuff and nobody can

1299
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:07,040
duplicate others well i can make that

1300
00:46:11,430 --> 00:46:09,119
sound well

1301
00:46:12,390 --> 00:46:11,440
you can't either no you can't sorry you

1302
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:12,400
can't do it

1303
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,640
exactly like that you just can't it

1304
00:46:17,990 --> 00:46:16,240
can't be done according to

1305
00:46:19,270 --> 00:46:18,000
the group of study that i've had more

1306
00:46:21,109 --> 00:46:19,280
than just scott nelson

1307
00:46:23,670 --> 00:46:21,119
and professor chrome look at these

1308
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,680
things and they they challenge anyone to

1309
00:46:27,829 --> 00:46:25,520
try to do that

1310
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,839
the frequencies are so high and they go

1311
00:46:31,030 --> 00:46:29,119
so low

1312
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:31,040
and they go in our language and outside

1313
00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:32,480
along so they can pronounce they can

1314
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:34,000
call your dog's name we have the woods

1315
00:46:36,470 --> 00:46:35,599
when the dog's not around they can call

1316
00:46:38,630 --> 00:46:36,480
your name

1317
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,640
and you won't know who's over there

1318
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:40,240
there's all kinds of telltale things

1319
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,160
they do to tour with people and

1320
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:44,319
i gotta say that about that they do toy

1321
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:45,280
with people

1322
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:46,640
because they think that we think we're

1323
00:46:49,109 --> 00:46:48,319
smarter than them and they gotta they

1324
00:46:50,710 --> 00:46:49,119
gotta

1325
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:50,720
step up on us in the woods that's for

1326
00:46:56,230 --> 00:46:52,400
sure

1327
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,240
yes and i'm it's all so

1328
00:47:00,150 --> 00:46:58,800
wild that uh you mentioned matt money

1329
00:47:02,710 --> 00:47:00,160
maker i've invested

1330
00:47:04,710 --> 00:47:02,720
investigated with matt great guy and he

1331
00:47:06,950 --> 00:47:04,720
definitely has the passion

1332
00:47:09,030 --> 00:47:06,960
ron you are bar none the type of

1333
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:09,040
researcher that are among my favorite

1334
00:47:15,109 --> 00:47:12,400
the passion is obvious that you have and

1335
00:47:15,829 --> 00:47:15,119
you touched on the fact of what are they

1336
00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:15,839
saying

1337
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:18,079
and when i heard the samurai that you

1338
00:47:22,829 --> 00:47:19,119
mentioned it

1339
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,839
is so so it touches you on a deep level

1340
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,240
because

1341
00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:26,880
well did you have any feelings about

1342
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:28,880
what was being said there seems to be a

1343
00:47:34,150 --> 00:47:32,800
message vocalized or an intention

1344
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,160
you know i think finally it was a

1345
00:47:39,190 --> 00:47:36,240
question uh several of them were aware

1346
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:39,200
that my doubt them just me and one of

1347
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:40,640
the guys up there we came in earlier

1348
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:42,319
with the horses we have been supplies

1349
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:43,440
and

1350
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:47,680
we did i mean whatever

1351
00:47:52,150 --> 00:47:50,400
horner was doing this up there was not

1352
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:52,160
human not completely anyway

1353
00:47:58,630 --> 00:47:55,760
and uh they're very intuitive uh

1354
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,640
i think when we left out to you know the

1355
00:48:02,309 --> 00:48:00,319
tactic of tackling our mules and caught

1356
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,319
them when we got on the trail we

1357
00:48:06,069 --> 00:48:04,319
suddenly started them uh probably about

1358
00:48:07,750 --> 00:48:06,079
a quarter mile off the trail we wasn't

1359
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,760
sure what it was didn't make a big

1360
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,319
deal because it could be a bear tears in

1361
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:11,920
my life but anything

1362
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,839
but they started jumping around and that

1363
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:15,839
we just kept going another

1364
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,800
mile or so off the trail they noticed i

1365
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,119
noticed i was a big horse a big track

1366
00:48:25,589 --> 00:48:23,119
for conducting the trail

1367
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:25,599
and uh just like it was purposely left

1368
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:27,280
there nobody else had been on the trail

1369
00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,960
at that time

1370
00:48:32,230 --> 00:48:31,119
at least no humans were some dirt tracks

1371
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:32,240
stuff like that but

1372
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:33,920
i took a picture of it like that kept

1373
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:36,079
going but that kind of told us hey maybe

1374
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,680
that's what messed with us down below

1375
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:39,359
there you know when

1376
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,240
animals got startled when we got to camp

1377
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:44,319
uh this is the night i started recording

1378
00:48:47,430 --> 00:48:45,599
because i missed the first

1379
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,440
12 minutes i didn't think that i could

1380
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,000
get much my exterior on my own

1381
00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:52,640
because i set up some time but they

1382
00:48:56,150 --> 00:48:53,440
started

1383
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:56,160
pounding on rocks and uh making big

1384
00:49:00,069 --> 00:48:57,200
snaps and big

1385
00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:00,079
wood snaps and stuff like that and you

1386
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,520
hear that and you notice that because

1387
00:49:06,309 --> 00:49:03,200
nothing else does that up there

1388
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:06,319
to the definition that these things have

1389
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,079
and they hear their whooping sounds when

1390
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:10,079
you don't don't react to that stuff

1391
00:49:12,630 --> 00:49:11,200
because whatever you do they'll get out

1392
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,640
there and shine a flashlight though

1393
00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:14,559
get rid of them real quick and it won't

1394
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:16,640
be exposed and uh when they're in the

1395
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:18,160
physical dimension they don't want to be

1396
00:49:22,150 --> 00:49:18,800
seen

1397
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:22,160
and anyway uh

1398
00:49:25,750 --> 00:49:23,920
after that you just keep ignoring what

1399
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:25,760
we were doing uh

1400
00:49:29,030 --> 00:49:27,359
that get closer and closer and first

1401
00:49:29,510 --> 00:49:29,040
thing you know they started yelling at

1402
00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:29,520
me

1403
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:33,440
a question being asked

1404
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:36,160
in my opinion so i started mimicking

1405
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:37,119
them

1406
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:38,880
on the back but we underestimated what

1407
00:49:43,109 --> 00:49:40,720
they were still at that time

1408
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:43,119
didn't know what they were so don't know

1409
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:43,760
but

1410
00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:47,280
we sure have a heck of a time up there

1411
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,520
uh it's scary at first that's for sure

1412
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,440
but uh

1413
00:49:54,630 --> 00:49:53,280
after you get used to it you know you

1414
00:49:56,630 --> 00:49:54,640
realize you know

1415
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,640
these sounds are making isn't arguing

1416
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:58,800
over who hates you first at an argument

1417
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,359
or maybe

1418
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:01,920
how close should they get to you that's

1419
00:50:09,430 --> 00:50:08,390
again nervous looking for liquid it's a

1420
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:09,440
honeycomb

1421
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:12,480
and uh they've been actually used since

1422
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,440
1958 by the johnson brothers

1423
00:50:18,710 --> 00:50:17,680
and uh this didn't happen to them until

1424
00:50:20,150 --> 00:50:18,720
71

1425
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,160
and they were the first two when it

1426
00:50:23,670 --> 00:50:21,839
happened

1427
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:23,680
originally they thought it was probably

1428
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:25,440
a veritarian something out there

1429
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,680
first but they went out and looked upon

1430
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,119
this big print in the mud

1431
00:50:32,549 --> 00:50:30,960
they realized this is about a bear

1432
00:50:34,150 --> 00:50:32,559
they're avid hunters and these guys

1433
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:34,160
could

1434
00:50:41,030 --> 00:50:37,760
wow good hunters and uh

1435
00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,040
so they uh they came out and told

1436
00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:43,839
to the guys and uh they went back up i

1437
00:50:46,069 --> 00:50:44,640
wasn't

1438
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:46,079
part of the hunting group at that time

1439
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:47,760
just friends with them all

1440
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,480
so i kind of knew they were hunting and

1441
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:52,079
there was a special place to go to

1442
00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:53,760
but i didn't have any interest in at

1443
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:55,280
that time

1444
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:57,839
and uh hadn't been invited anyway but

1445
00:51:00,710 --> 00:50:59,520
one of the guys got scared off up there

1446
00:51:02,390 --> 00:51:00,720
at the first time he went back up

1447
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:02,400
thinking you know this there's a bear

1448
00:51:06,470 --> 00:51:04,400
mess with him or something like that

1449
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:06,480
and he experienced it and he shot out of

1450
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:08,319
the next day he just left the notes

1451
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:08,800
there

1452
00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:12,000
because the bomb and

1453
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:14,000
he wouldn't go back sure and the guys

1454
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:15,200
didn't come out when they were supposed

1455
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:15,599
to

1456
00:51:19,270 --> 00:51:17,680
the other guy so the wives were all

1457
00:51:22,309 --> 00:51:19,280
worried

1458
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:22,319
and uh he asked if i could go back with

1459
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,760
him because they wanted to know if the

1460
00:51:25,750 --> 00:51:24,480
guys were okay

1461
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,760
at that time you don't know what kind of

1462
00:51:28,630 --> 00:51:27,359
monster you're dealing with if it is a

1463
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,640
monster

1464
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,480
so i went back up and that's how i got

1465
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:32,319
involved in the camp and that's when i

1466
00:51:36,790 --> 00:51:34,000
started hunting and doing all the things

1467
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:36,800
the other guys did i don't have it there

1468
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:39,440
anymore but i circle back

1469
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:42,800
uh might get off track again no

1470
00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:46,000
not at all that's right on right on it

1471
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:47,440
is

1472
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:50,880
the camp i mean my gosh talk about

1473
00:51:55,990 --> 00:51:53,920
very did you

1474
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:56,000
in this area did you hear any other

1475
00:51:58,790 --> 00:51:57,119
sounds

1476
00:52:01,589 --> 00:51:58,800
it's just so fascinating that these

1477
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:01,599
vocalizations in my opinion

1478
00:52:06,390 --> 00:52:04,640
they share so much with um you know

1479
00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:06,400
oftentimes people

1480
00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:08,640
mention in these quantum dynamics they

1481
00:52:13,750 --> 00:52:10,800
talk of disembodied voices

1482
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,760
and the chatter seems to be similar now

1483
00:52:18,309 --> 00:52:15,280
the vocalization is not

1484
00:52:20,630 --> 00:52:18,319
the i mean the strength and the

1485
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:20,640
deepness and the vocal i mean the vocal

1486
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:22,000
cords must be like

1487
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:24,880
radiator hoses because the deepness that

1488
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:26,559
some of these sounds come across and the

1489
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:27,839
lengths that they travel in the

1490
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:28,559
wilderness

1491
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:32,160
are fascinating but it seems

1492
00:52:36,549 --> 00:52:34,880
that there is some kind of other worldly

1493
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,559
aspect to this and i think you touched

1494
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,079
on that and explained it really well

1495
00:52:43,270 --> 00:52:41,200
ron um you've fulfilled one of my

1496
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:43,280
all-time goals talking to you about

1497
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:46,319
one of the most provocative and biggest

1498
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,079
questions of our existence

1499
00:52:52,390 --> 00:52:51,440
and who exactly are we sharing our

1500
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:52,400
forests with

1501
00:52:57,270 --> 00:52:55,440
ron i wanna i want to uh

1502
00:52:59,510 --> 00:52:57,280
mention one thing i went into a very

1503
00:53:02,549 --> 00:52:59,520
lengthy intro before we started

1504
00:53:05,829 --> 00:53:02,559
uh before we spoke about the products

1505
00:53:08,309 --> 00:53:05,839
literature and websites and

1506
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,319
but can you go over where listeners can

1507
00:53:12,710 --> 00:53:09,680
access your work

1508
00:53:14,790 --> 00:53:12,720
research and products as well

1509
00:53:15,990 --> 00:53:14,800
sure my two books are available on

1510
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:16,000
amazon for

1511
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,240
kdp downloads um my website is

1512
00:53:25,990 --> 00:53:23,200
ronmorehead.com1o

1513
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:26,000
and uh you can read about the new

1514
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:27,119
article i've written in

1515
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,520
a place i've been to on that there's

1516
00:53:34,549 --> 00:53:30,960
also a couple of

1517
00:53:36,670 --> 00:53:34,559
soundbites you can listen to and uh

1518
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:36,680
anyway bigfootsounds.com or

1519
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,359
ronmorehead.com we'll get people there

1520
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:41,119
the cds are available there too on my

1521
00:53:43,109 --> 00:53:42,480
home page you can see where you can

1522
00:53:44,870 --> 00:53:43,119
order them

1523
00:53:46,870 --> 00:53:44,880
uh they're about 40 minutes long each

1524
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:46,880
one again it was narrated by jonathan

1525
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:47,440
tricks

1526
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:49,920
star trek and then the other one is

1527
00:53:53,030 --> 00:53:51,440
narrated by myself

1528
00:53:54,950 --> 00:53:53,040
and it's my they're both about 40

1529
00:53:56,309 --> 00:53:54,960
minutes with integrated uh

1530
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:56,319
good sounds and when you get to the

1531
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:58,559
context of the sound i'm talking about

1532
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:00,640
you can hear the sound

1533
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:03,520
and now that's only the download in the

1534
00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:04,160
books

1535
00:54:09,190 --> 00:54:06,800
now the one that's on kdp does not come

1536
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:09,200
with a cd

1537
00:54:14,230 --> 00:54:13,359
uh you have to i got a download in there

1538
00:54:16,470 --> 00:54:14,240
because you couldn't get

1539
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:16,480
done to pack a cd with all that stuff in

1540
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:17,680
this

1541
00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,640
range cost wise so what i've done is i

1542
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:22,400
offered the book with the cd

1543
00:54:28,549 --> 00:54:25,760
full color version on my website and

1544
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,559
the other one is from amazon and it's a

1545
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:30,319
less money but it doesn't come with a cd

1546
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,359
it's comfortable to see

1547
00:54:34,390 --> 00:54:33,040
the download of the sound so when you

1548
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:34,400
get to the context you can hear that's

1549
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,789
i gotta say this about it all though i

1550
00:54:48,789 --> 00:54:46,559
think uh there's a bigger story

1551
00:54:49,670 --> 00:54:48,799
a bigger picture than just bigfoot in

1552
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:49,680
this

1553
00:54:56,549 --> 00:54:53,520
uh the indian

1554
00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:56,559
alien aspect the component probably that

1555
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:00,480
these beings have uh they're unusual

1556
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:03,760
they're uh very most mystical

1557
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:07,119
and uh don't be surprised beyond the

1558
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,079
woods and you hear

1559
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:10,400
some talking chattering going on it

1560
00:55:14,309 --> 00:55:11,680
would be a couple

1561
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:14,319
of things talking about you but they're

1562
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:15,040
not

1563
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,240
i don't think they're supposed to mess

1564
00:55:22,789 --> 00:55:21,839
with our karma what we're supposed to

1565
00:55:25,990 --> 00:55:22,799
experience

1566
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:26,000
that's what our place here on earth is

1567
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:27,599
all about is experiences that we're

1568
00:55:32,630 --> 00:55:30,000
going to have and how we respond to them

1569
00:55:34,150 --> 00:55:32,640
and to respond to them in a caring

1570
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,160
compassionate manner

1571
00:55:37,510 --> 00:55:35,760
that's what's important i think in the

1572
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,520
whole scheme of it all and that's what

1573
00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,680
raises your own personal vibration

1574
00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:41,040
i mentioned earlier the schumann

1575
00:55:43,829 --> 00:55:42,720
residence that's the earth's frequency

1576
00:55:45,829 --> 00:55:43,839
at night

1577
00:55:46,870 --> 00:55:45,839
when it settles down and sometimes

1578
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:46,880
shining

1579
00:55:50,150 --> 00:55:48,480
and when you settle down and you're not

1580
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:50,160
shining anymore either

1581
00:55:53,510 --> 00:55:51,440
you start relaxing get out of the

1582
00:55:55,109 --> 00:55:53,520
analytical mode just relax you kind of

1583
00:55:57,190 --> 00:55:55,119
fall into a

1584
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,200
alpha state which is out of the beta

1585
00:56:00,710 --> 00:55:58,720
state which we're in now

1586
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:00,720
it takes you right into the data state

1587
00:56:05,670 --> 00:56:02,960
which is the state between uh

1588
00:56:07,349 --> 00:56:05,680
uh where you have lucid dreams and the

1589
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:07,359
office stages where you're you're aware

1590
00:56:10,150 --> 00:56:08,880
but you're just relaxed you're not

1591
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:10,160
thinking you're just

1592
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:13,119
fixing to pass off into the sleep it is

1593
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,559
where you get your answers

1594
00:56:18,150 --> 00:56:17,040
and you go to uh built after that and

1595
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,160
that's a deep sleep

1596
00:56:22,069 --> 00:56:19,440
that's where you'll have your your

1597
00:56:23,829 --> 00:56:22,079
dreams tesla had a lot of his uh answers

1598
00:56:25,109 --> 00:56:23,839
to the problems that come up out next

1599
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:25,119
morning after

1600
00:56:28,710 --> 00:56:26,720
sleeping and you've got the answer to

1601
00:56:30,549 --> 00:56:28,720
your problem so it's a good idea to

1602
00:56:33,510 --> 00:56:30,559
sleep on your problem before you

1603
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:33,520
try to make a decision how to respond to

1604
00:56:36,230 --> 00:56:34,000
it

1605
00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:36,240
just make sure i i just support uh

1606
00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:37,280
respond to everything

1607
00:56:40,309 --> 00:56:39,119
love and caring and have compassion for

1608
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:40,319
other people

1609
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,799
that will help you as a person no matter

1610
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:44,960
what they've done

1611
00:56:51,190 --> 00:56:48,319
you need to keep yourself up there and

1612
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:51,200
try to respond with things properly uh

1613
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:52,319
so the bigger picture

1614
00:56:56,829 --> 00:56:54,799
is uh well it gets into a lot more than

1615
00:56:58,069 --> 00:56:56,839
what we have time to talk about here but

1616
00:56:59,910 --> 00:56:58,079
it's

1617
00:57:01,670 --> 00:56:59,920
i think very very important for people

1618
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,680
realize we're in a unique time

1619
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,760
right now i know i've been told this

1620
00:57:07,829 --> 00:57:05,040
year after a year

1621
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:07,839
or since i was born i think well in 10

1622
00:57:11,510 --> 00:57:10,079
years this earth won't be here

1623
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,520
i think we're going to open our eyes

1624
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,960
there's a reason the space force was

1625
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:14,640
created there's a reason that more and

1626
00:57:17,109 --> 00:57:15,359
more people

1627
00:57:20,549 --> 00:57:17,119
are seeing these ufos there's a reason

1628
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:20,559
that the military's declassified the

1629
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:23,920
the stuff about ufos and people are

1630
00:57:27,270 --> 00:57:25,520
saying this is a whole group of people

1631
00:57:28,870 --> 00:57:27,280
say they've been abducted i've

1632
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,880
witnessed and talked to several of those

1633
00:57:32,789 --> 00:57:30,240
people i just can't believe they're

1634
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:32,799
lying to me i know them personally and

1635
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,240
they they're afraid to talk about it

1636
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:36,400
it's different what are they doing

1637
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:38,000
they're messing with the dna

1638
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:40,960
of humans and i think our military knows

1639
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:42,799
about it there's definitely uh

1640
00:57:46,309 --> 00:57:45,040
some stuff we just not privy to even

1641
00:57:48,789 --> 00:57:46,319
though a lot of the information is going

1642
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,799
to be classified not all of them have

1643
00:57:52,630 --> 00:57:50,799
but i think within the next few years if

1644
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,640
not sooner we're going to

1645
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:55,200
get dumped on by a lot of information

1646
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,760
and uh

1647
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:57,680
people are gonna have to figure out how

1648
00:58:03,910 --> 00:57:58,960
they're gonna process it

1649
00:58:07,270 --> 00:58:06,470
such a good word prophetic that is so

1650
00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:07,280
true

1651
00:58:13,430 --> 00:58:10,880
and the i think that the big hairy guy

1652
00:58:15,109 --> 00:58:13,440
the sasquatch yeti wild man every

1653
00:58:18,309 --> 00:58:15,119
culture has

1654
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,319
has one uh this is not some

1655
00:58:23,670 --> 00:58:21,359
some wild thing that somebody

1656
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:23,680
came up with on their own on on an

1657
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:25,119
island without

1658
00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:28,240
without interconnectivity every culture

1659
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,079
has this myth and there is a very

1660
00:58:36,069 --> 00:58:34,880
real quantum aspect about it when you

1661
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:36,079
see these footprints

1662
00:58:40,390 --> 00:58:39,359
that well they they kind of like you

1663
00:58:43,349 --> 00:58:40,400
said they kind of

1664
00:58:45,030 --> 00:58:43,359
uh i think you said that they kind of

1665
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:45,040
cloak in and cloak out that's kind of

1666
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,880
how some of these footprints are they

1667
00:58:51,990 --> 00:58:48,640
ease up and eventually just

1668
00:58:53,910 --> 00:58:52,000
fade out and you know

1669
00:58:55,109 --> 00:58:53,920
you're my favorite type of researcher

1670
00:58:57,030 --> 00:58:55,119
because you're doing some of the most

1671
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:57,040
scientifically based research on the

1672
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:57,920
planet

1673
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:01,280
an adventurer author ron

1674
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:02,960
thank you so much for coming on the

1675
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:04,319
podcast ending

1676
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:07,680
with ending notes and uh any

1677
00:59:14,789 --> 00:59:11,440
any evidence or anything that you think

1678
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:14,799
could uh how can i

1679
00:59:18,069 --> 00:59:17,760
i don't know get give any insight as to

1680
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,079
your

1681
00:59:23,349 --> 00:59:20,720
own personal theories any anything that

1682
00:59:25,270 --> 00:59:23,359
we may have left out

1683
00:59:26,789 --> 00:59:25,280
well that's not a lot it can do this an

1684
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hour

1685
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:30,400
it's uh there's a lot to it and uh

1686
00:59:34,870 --> 00:59:33,520
again i think uh if you look into what

1687
00:59:37,109 --> 00:59:34,880
payline components it's

1688
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:37,119
kind of out of classical science but

1689
00:59:42,150 --> 00:59:38,720
it's there

1690
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:42,160
and uh just keep an open mind that's my

1691
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:45,440
suggestion everybody is a parachute is a

1692
00:59:48,710 --> 00:59:46,400
good parachute

1693
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:48,720
unless it doesn't open so you can jump

1694
00:59:51,589 --> 00:59:50,000
on an airplane and

1695
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:51,599
be a researcher but if you purchase you

1696
00:59:54,630 --> 00:59:53,200
don't open okay

1697
00:59:57,270 --> 00:59:54,640
you let that kind of like the mind you

1698
00:59:59,190 --> 00:59:57,280
know if your mind's not open you won't

1699
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:59,200
be able to receive things your brain has

1700
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,319
a way of

1701
01:00:03,910 --> 01:00:02,720
connecting the dots but the only dots

1702
01:00:04,549 --> 01:00:03,920
that can connect to the ones that it's

1703
01:00:07,109 --> 01:00:04,559
been taught

1704
01:00:08,230 --> 01:00:07,119
so if you want to connect more dots

1705
01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:08,240
learn more

1706
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:10,480
and we'll see what the what the picture

1707
01:00:17,589 --> 01:00:14,950
so that's what i say to people is just

1708
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:17,599
keep an open mind and learn to

1709
01:00:22,069 --> 01:00:20,559
learn to learn like say when you're

1710
01:00:23,190 --> 01:00:22,079
green you're growing when you're rocky

1711
01:00:26,789 --> 01:00:23,200
rocks

1712
01:00:27,990 --> 01:00:26,799
yeah yeah and the gear that you have at

1713
01:00:31,030 --> 01:00:28,000
the bigfoot store

1714
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:31,040
is so cool uh the quantum bigfoot

1715
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,000
t-shirts

1716
01:00:36,150 --> 01:00:34,160
the mugs but of course there's all the

1717
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:36,160
hardcore research as well so i think

1718
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:37,440
all the listeners should definitely

1719
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:39,839
cruise over to thebigfootstore.com

1720
01:00:44,309 --> 01:00:43,280
and ronmorehead.com uh check out the

1721
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:44,319
sierra sounds

1722
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:47,119
and listen to them they are they're deep

1723
01:00:51,670 --> 01:00:49,200
there's there's a lot more to them

1724
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:51,680
than just some random vocalization in

1725
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,720
the forest

1726
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:55,440
thank you so much uh mr moorhead uh you

1727
01:00:58,470 --> 01:00:56,960
you've fulfilled one of my all-time

1728
01:01:00,069 --> 01:00:58,480
goals

1729
01:01:01,670 --> 01:01:00,079
thank you so much ryan it's a pleasure

1730
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,680
being with you

1731
01:01:04,870 --> 01:01:03,760
have a have a great day and i look

1732
01:01:08,150 --> 01:01:04,880
forward to talking you

1733
01:01:10,950 --> 01:01:08,160
again in the future well thank you okay

1734
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:10,960
stay safe take care of my man bye-bye

1735
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:13,760
doing the darn thing the only way he

1736
01:01:18,309 --> 01:01:14,880
knows how

1737
01:01:19,510 --> 01:01:18,319
the best a very real quantum aspect

1738
01:01:23,270 --> 01:01:19,520
about it

1739
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:23,280
ron moorhead providing very real science

1740
01:01:26,470 --> 01:01:25,839
while being one of the most critically

1741
01:01:29,190 --> 01:01:26,480
acclaimed

1742
01:01:30,309 --> 01:01:29,200
researchers adventurers and well he's

1743
01:01:33,030 --> 01:01:30,319
just laying it down

1744
01:01:33,670 --> 01:01:33,040
head over to the websites check out the

1745
01:01:36,230 --> 01:01:33,680
research

1746
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:36,240
check out the fantastic provocative

1747
01:01:42,390 --> 01:01:37,200
sounds

1748
01:01:43,589 --> 01:01:42,400
if you want to get some cool some cool

1749
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:43,599
swag

1750
01:01:47,670 --> 01:01:46,559
also check out heroparanormal.com and

1751
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:47,680
until next time guys

1752
01:01:51,430 --> 01:01:49,839
keep your eyes to the skies feet on the

1753
01:02:06,900 --> 01:01:51,440
ground but don't forget

1754
01:02:19,270 --> 01:02:06,910
to take a look around

1755
01:02:34,220 --> 01:02:23,950
off in my time machine third eye feeling

1756
01:03:00,390 --> 01:02:34,230
passed off